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MBCook 1 days ago [-]
Then you don’t get to drive on the road. Easy.
tim-tday 8 hours ago [-]
To be fair human drivers violate the bike lane thousands of times a day in SF.
I’m not defending Waymo, but the city bears responsibility for failing to create room for pickup and delivery drivers to operate safely.
I rode down Folsom to work every day for a year. The bike lane was blocked by fedex and uber dozens of times per trip. (Which meant I had to ride out into traffic risking death many times a day). Ride along with a UPS driver for a day if you want to count double parking and bike lane violations. I’m guessing that over 90% of deliveries require a traffic violation.
I’m not saying allow Waymo to do it, I’m saying hold everyone to the same standard. I’m not joking when I say we should ban delivery trucks too. You’ll be surprised how quickly “can’t be done” changes to “we figured it out” when SF residents can’t get their Amazon deliveries.
MBCook 4 hours ago [-]
They do. But humans are individuals. You can’t blindly control them, you have to set up positive/negative incentives and try to enforce them. Then just hope for the best.
This is a computer. They’re asking to be able to program it to ignore the law. They could absolutely be 100% compliant without issue. That’s why I’m mad. It’s pure disrespect, thinking they should be above it.
I say go after the delivery vehicles. Amazon wants to sell Ring cameras to everyone for the police to view? Ok. Let the police view them to catch and ticket delivery drivers.
rhelz 1 days ago [-]
Amen. We can't normalize autonomous AI agents killing us as part of their nominal operation.
I’m not defending Waymo, but the city bears responsibility for failing to create room for pickup and delivery drivers to operate safely.
I rode down Folsom to work every day for a year. The bike lane was blocked by fedex and uber dozens of times per trip. (Which meant I had to ride out into traffic risking death many times a day). Ride along with a UPS driver for a day if you want to count double parking and bike lane violations. I’m guessing that over 90% of deliveries require a traffic violation.
I’m not saying allow Waymo to do it, I’m saying hold everyone to the same standard. I’m not joking when I say we should ban delivery trucks too. You’ll be surprised how quickly “can’t be done” changes to “we figured it out” when SF residents can’t get their Amazon deliveries.
This is a computer. They’re asking to be able to program it to ignore the law. They could absolutely be 100% compliant without issue. That’s why I’m mad. It’s pure disrespect, thinking they should be above it.
I say go after the delivery vehicles. Amazon wants to sell Ring cameras to everyone for the police to view? Ok. Let the police view them to catch and ticket delivery drivers.
This seems obvious.....